A comparative discourse of our English Poets, with the Greeke, Latine, and Italian Poets
In tabellarischer Form und durchnumeriert.
1.
AS Greece had three Poets of great antiquity 1. Orpheus 2. Linus 3. Musoeus and Italy, other three auncient Poets, 1. Livius Andronicus 2. Ennius 3. Plautus: |
SO hath England three auncient Poets, 1. Chaucer, 2. Gower 3. Lydgate |
2.
AS 1. Homer is reputed the Prince of Greek Poets; and 1. Petrarch of Italian Poets |
So 1. Chaucer is accounted the God of English Poets |
3.
AS 1. Homer was the first that adorned the Greek tongue with true quantity: |
SO 1. Piers Plowman was the first that observed the true quantitie of our verse without the curiositie of Rime. |
4.
1. Ovid writ a Chronicle from the beginning of the world to his own time, that is, to the raign of Augustus the Emperour: |
SO hath 1. Harding the Chronicles after his manner of old harsh riming from Adam to his time, that is, the raigne of King Edward the fourth |
5.
AS 1. Sotades Maronites the Iambicke Poet gave himselfe wholy to write impure and lascivious things: |
SO 1. Skelton (I know not for what great worthines, surnamed the Poet Laureat) applied his wit to scurrilities and ridiculous matters, such among the Greeks were called Pantomimi, with us Buffons. |
6.
AS 1. Consalvo Perez that excellent learned man, and Secretary to King Philip of Spayne, in translating the Ulysses of Homer out of Greeke into Spanish, hath by good judgement avoided the faulte of Ryming, although not fully hit perfect and true versifying: |
SO hath 1. Henrie Howarde that true and noble Earle of Surrey in translating the fourth book of Virgils Aeneas, whom Michael Drayton in his Englands heroycall Epistles hath eternized for an Epistle to his faire Geraldine. |
7.
AS these Neoterickes 1. Iovianus Pontanus 2. Politianus 3. Marullus Tarchaniota 4. the two Stroza, the father and the son, 5. Palingenius 6. Mantuanus 7. Philelphus 8. Quintianus Stoa 9. Germanus Brixius have obtained renown and good place among the auncient Latine Poets: |
SO also these English men being Latine Poets 1. Gualter Haddon 2. Nicholas Car 3. Gabriel Harvey 4. Christopher Ocland 5. Thomas Newton with his Leyland 6. Thomas Watson 7. Thomas Campion 8. Brunswerd & 9. Willey, have attained good report and honorable advancement in the Latin Empyre |
8.
AS the Greeke tongue is made famous and eloquent by 1. Homner 2. Hesiod 3. Euripides 4. Aeschilus 5. Sophocles 6. Pindarus 7. Phocylides 8. Aristophanes; and the Latine tongue by 1. Virgill 2. Ovid 3. Horace 4. Silius Italicus 5. Lacanus 6. Lucretius 7. Ausonius and 8. Claudianus |
SO the English tongue is mightily enriched, and gorgeouslie invested in rare ornaments and resplendent abiliments by
1. Sir Philip Sidney 2. Spencer 3. Daniel 4. Drayton 5. Warner 6. Shakespeare 7. Marlow 8. Chapman |
9.
AS 1. Xenophon, who did imitate so excellently, as to give us effigiena iusti imperis, the portraiture of a just Empire under the name of Cyrus (as Cicero saieth of him) made therein ab absolute heroicall Poem; and AS 1. Heliodorus writ in prose his sugred invention of that picture of Love in Theagines and Cericles Cariclea, and yet both excellent admired Poets: |
SO 1. sir Philip Sidney writ his immortal Poem, The Countesse of Pembrokes Arcadia, in Prose, and yet our rarest Poet. |
10.
AS 1. Sextus Propertius saide; Nescio quid magis nascitur Iliade: |
SO I say of 1. Spencers Fairy Queene, I knowe not what more excellent or exquisite Poem may be written. |
11.
AS Achilles had the advantage of Hector because it was his fortune to bee extolled and renowned by the heavenly verse of 1. Homer: |
SO 1. Spensers Elisa the Fairy Queen hath the advantage of all the Queenes in the worlde, to bee eternized by so divine a Poet. |
12.
AS 1. Theocritus is famoused for his Idyllia in Greeke and 1. Virgill for his Eclogs in Latin: |
SO 1. Spencer their imitatour in his Shepheardes Calender, is renowned for the like argument, and honoured for fine Poeticall invention, and most exquisit wit.
|
13.
AS 1. Parthenius Nicaeus excellently sung the praises of his Arete: |
SO 1. Daniel hath divinely sonetted the matchlesse beauty of his Delia. |
14.
AS every one mourneth, when hee heareth of the lamentable plangors of Thracian 1. Orpheus for his dearest Euridice: |
SO every one passionateth, when he readeth the afflicted death of 1. Daniels distressed Rosamond. |
15.
AS 1. Lucan hath mournefully depainted the civill wars of Pompey & Caesar: |
SO hath 1. Daniel the civill wars of Yorke and Lancaster and 2. Drayton the civill wars of Edward the second, and the Barons |
16.
AS 1. Virgil doth imitate 1. Catullus in the like matter of Ariadne for his story of Queene Dido: |
SO 1. Michael Drayton doth imitate 1. Ovid in his Englands Heroical Epistles. |
17.
AS 1. Sophocles was called a Bee for the sweetnes of his tongue: |
SO in Charles Fitz-Iefferies Drake 1. Drayton is termed Goldenmouth'd for the purity and pretiousnesse of his stile and phrase. |
18.
AS 1. Accius 2. M. Attilius and 3. Milithus were called Tragoediographi, because they writ Tragedies: |
SO may we truly terme 1. Michael Drayton Tragoediographus, for his passionate penning the downfals of 1. valiant Robert of Normandy 2. chast Matilda 3. and great Gaveston |
19.
AS 1. Ioan. Honterus in Latine verse writ 3. Bookes of Cosmography with Geographicall tables: |
SO 1. Michael Drayton is now in penning in English verse a Poem called Poly-olbion Geographical and Hydrographicall of all the forests, woods, mountaines, fountaines, rivers, lakes, flouds, bathes and springs that be in England. |
20.
AS 1. Aulus Persius Flaccus is reported among al writers to be of an honest life and upright conversation: |
SO 1. Michael Drayton (que totis honoris & amoris causa nomino) among schollers, souldiours, Poets, and all sorts of people, is helde for a man of vertuous disposition, honest conversation, and wel governed cariage, which is almost miraculous among good with in these declining and corrupt times, when there is nothing but rogery in villanous man, & when cheating and crassines is counted the cleanest wit, and soundest wisedome. |
21.
AS 1. Decius Ausonius Gallus in libris Fastorum, penned the occurences of the world from the first creation of it to his time, that is, to the raigne of the Emperor Gratian: |
SO 1. Warner in his absolute Albions Englande hath most admirably penned the historie of his own country from Noah to his time, that is, to the raigne of Queene Elizabeth, I have heard him termd of the best wits of both our Universities, our English Homer. |
22.
AS 1. Euripides ist the most sententious among the Greek Poets. |
SO is 1. Warner among our English Poets. |
23.
AS the soule of 1. Euphorbus was thought to live in 1. Pythagoras: |
SO the sweete wittie soule of 1. Ovid lives in mellifluous & hony-tongued 1. Shakespeare, witnes his Venus and Adonis, his Lucrece, his sugred Sonnets among his private friends, &c. |
24.
AS 1. Plautus and 2. Seneca are accounted the best for Comedy and Tragedy among the Latines: |
SO 1. Shakespeare among the English is the most excellent in BOTH kinds for the stage |
witness
for
Comedy
for Tragedy
1. Gentlemen of Verona
1. Richard the 2.
2.
Errors
2. Richard the 3.
3. Love labors
lost
3. Henry the 4.
4. Love labours wonne
4. King Iohn
5. Midsummers night dreame
5. Titus Andronicus
6. Merchant of Venice 6. Romeo
and Juliet
25.
AS Epius Stolo said, that the Muses would speake with 1. Plautus tongue, if they would speak Latin: |
SO I say that the Muses would speak with 1. Shakespeares fine filed phrase if they would speake English. |
26.
AS Musaeus, who wrote the love of Hero and Leander, had two excellent schollers, 1. Thamaras & 2. Hercules: |
SO hath he in England two excellent Poets, imitators of him in the same argument and subject, 1. Christopher Marlow, and 2. George Chapman. |
27.
AS 1. Ovid saith of his work Iam opus exegi, quod nec Iovis ira, nec ignis Nec poteris ferrum, nec edax abolero vetustas
And AS 1. Horace saith of his: Exegi monumentum are perennius; Regalique; situ pyramidum altius; Quod non imber edax; Non Aquilo impotens possit discere; aut innumerabilis annorum series & fuga temperorum: |
SO say I severally of 1. sir Philip Sidneys 2. Spencers 3. Daniels 4. Draytons 5. Shakespeares 6. Warners: Non Iouis ira: imbres: Mars: ferrum; flamma, senectus, Hoc opus unda: lues: turbo: venena ruent. Et quanquam ad plucherrimum hoc opus euertendum tres illi Dij conspirabunt, Cronus, Vulcanus, & pater ipse gentis; Non tamen annorum series, non flamma, nec ensis, Aeternum potuit hoc abolere Decus. |
28.
AS Italy had 1. Dante 2. Boccace 3. Petrarch 4. Tasso 5. Celiano and 6. Ariosto: |
SO England 1. Mathew Roydon 2. Thomas Atchelow 3. Thomas Watson 4. Thomas Kid 5. Robert Greene & 6. George Peele |
29.
AS there are eight famous and chiefe languages 1. Hebrew 2. Greek 3. Latine 4. Syriack 5. Arabicke 6. Italian 7. Spanish 8. French |
SO there are eight notable severall kindes of Poets 1. Heroick 2. Lyricke 3. Tragicke 4. Comicke 5. Satiricke 6 Iambicke 7. Elegiacke & 8. Pastoral |
30.
AS 1. Homer and 2. Virgil among the Greeks and Latines are the chief Heroick Poets: |
SO 1. Spencer and 2. Warner be our chiefe heroicall Makers. |
31.
AS 1. Pindarus 2. Anacreon and 3. Callimachus among the Greekes; and 4. Horace and 5. Catullus among the Latines are the best Lyrick Poets: |
SO in this faculty the best among our Poets are 1. Spencer (who excelleth in all kinds) 2. Daniel 3. Drayton 4. Shakespeare 5. Bretton
|
32.
AS these Tragicke Poets flourished in Greece 1. Aeschylus 2. Euripedes 3. Sophocles 4. Alexander Aetolus 5. Achanes Erithraeus 6. Astydamas Atheniensis 7. Appolodorus Tarsensis 8. Nicomachus Phrygius 9. Thespis Atticus and 10. Timon Apolloniares and these among the Latines 11. Accius 12. M. Attilius 13. Pomponius Secundus and 14. Seneca: |
SO these are our best for Tragedie, 1. the Lorde Buckhurst 2. Doctor Leg of Cambridge 3. Doctor Edes of Oxford 4. maister Ferris 5. the Authour of the Mirrour for Magistrates 6. Marlow 7. Peele 8. Watson 9. Kid 10. Shakespeare 11. Drayton 12. Chapman 13. Decker, and 14. Beniamin Iohnson |
33.
AS 1. M. Anneus Lucanus writ two excellent Tragedies, one called 1. Medea the other 2. de Incendio Troia cum Priami calamitate: |
SO 1. Doctor Leg hath penned two famous tragedies, the one 1. Richard the 3. the other 2. the destruction of Ierusalem |
34.
The best Poets for Comedy among the Greeks are these 1. Menander 2. Aristophanes 3. Eupolis Atheniensis 4. Alexius Terius 5. Nicostratus 6. Amipsias Atheniensis 7. Anaxandrides Rhodius 8. Aristonymus 9. Archippus Atheniensis and 10. Callias Atheniensis and among the Latines 11. Plautus 12. Terence 13. Naevius 14. Sext. Turpilius 15. Licinius Imbrex and 16. Virgilius Romanus:
|
SO the best for Comedy amongst us bee 1. Edward Earle of Oxforde 2. Doctor Gager of Oxforde 3. Maister Rowley, once a rare Scholler of learned Pembrooke Hall in Cambridge 4. Maister Edwardes one of her Maiesties Chappell, 5. eloquent and wittie Iohn Lilly 6. Lodge 7. Gascoyne 8. Greene 9. Shakespeare 10. Thomas Nashe 11. Thomas Heywood 12. Anthony Mundy, our best plotter 13. Chapman 14. Porter 15. Wilson 16. Hathway 17. Henry Chettle |
35.
AS 1. Horace 2. Lucilius 3. Iuvenall 4. Persius & 5. Lucullus are the best for Satyre among the Latines: |
SO with us in the same faculty these are chiefe 1. Piers Plowman 2. Lodge 3. Hall of Imanuel Colledge in Cambridge 4. the Authour of Pigmalions Image, and certaine Satyrs 5. the Author of Skialetheia |
36.
Among the Greekes I wil name but two for Iambicks 1. Archilochus Parius, and 2. Hipponax Ephesius: |
SO amongst us I name but two Iambical Poets 1. Gabriel Harvey, and 2. Richard Stanyhurst, bicause I have seene no mo in this kind. |
37.
AS these are famous among the Greeks for Elegie 1. Melanthus 2. Mymnerus Colophonius 3. Olympius Mysius 4. Parthenius Nicaeus 5. Philetas Cous 6. Theogenes Megarenses, and 7. Pigres Halicarnassus; and these among the Latines 8. Mecaenas 9. Ovid 10. Tibullus 11. Propertius 12. T. Valgius 13. Cassius Severus & 14. Clodius Sabinus:
|
SO these are the most passionate among us tobewaile and bemoane the perplexities of Love 1. Henrie Howard Earle of Surrey 2. Sir Thomas Wyat the elder 3. Sir Francis Brian 4. Sir Walter Rawley 5. Sir Edward Dyer 6. Spencer 7. Daniel 8. Drayton 9. Shakespeare 10.Whetstone 11. Gascoyne 12. Samuell Page sometime fellowe of Corpus Christi Colledge in Oxford 13. Churchyard 14. Bretton |
38.
AS 1. Theocritus in Greeke, 2. Virgil and 3. Mantua in Latine, 4. Sanazar in Italian, and 5. the Authour of Amynta Gaudia and Walsinghams Meliboe [my remark: Thomas Watson's elegy onWalsingham in Latin] are the best for pastorall: |
SO amongst us the best in this kind are 1. sir Philip Sidney 2. master Challener 3. Spencer 4. Stephen Gosson 5. Abraham Fraunce 6. Barnefield |
39.
These and many other Epigrammatists the Latin tongue hath 1. Q. Catulus 2. Porcius Licinius 3. Quintus Cornificius 4. Martial 5. Cn. Getulicus, and 6. wittie sir Thomas Moore:
|
SO in English we have these, 1. Heywood 2. Drante 3. Kendal 4. Bastard 5. Davies * |
* Stands for two contemporaneous epigrammatists, Sir John Davies (1569-1626) and John Davies of Hereford (?1565-1618).
40.
AS noble 1. Mecanas that sprung from the Hetruscan Kinges not onely graced Poets by his bounty, but also by beeing a Poet himselfe
and AS 1. James the 6. nowe king of Scotland is not only a favorer of Poets, but a Poet, as my friend master Richard Barnefield hath in this Disticke passing well recorderd: The King of Scots now living is a Poet As his Lepanto, and his furies show it: |
SO 1. Elizabeth our dread sovereign and gracious Queene is not only a liberal patrone unto Poets, but an excellent Poet herselfe, whose learned, delicate and noble Muse surmounteth, be it in Ode, Elegy, Epigram, or in any other kind of Poem Heroicke, or Lyricke |
41.
1. Octavia sister unto Augustus the Emperour was exceeding bountifull unto Virgil, who gave him for making 26 verses, 1137 pounds, to wit, tenne Sestertiaes for everie verse, which amount to above 43 pounds for every verse: |
SO 1. learned Mary, the honourable Countesse of Pembrook, the noble sister of immortall sir Philip Sidney, is very liberall unto Poets; besides shee is a most delicate Poet, of whome I may say, as Antipater Sidonius writeth of Sappho: Dulcia Mnemosyne demirans carmina Sapphus Quaesinit decima Pieris unde foret. |
42.
Among others in times past, Poets had these favourers 1. Augustus 2. Mecaenas 3. Sophocles 4. Germanicus, an Emperour, a noble man, a Senatour, and a Captaine: |
SO of later time Poets have these patrones 1. Robert king of Sicil 2. the great king Frances of France 3. king James of Scotland, & 4. Queene Elizabeth of England. |
43.
AS in former times two great Cardinals, 1. Bembus & 2. Biena, did countenance Poets: |
SO of late years two great preachers have given them their right hands in felowship, 1. Beza and 2. Melancthon |
44.
AS the learned philosophers 1. Fracastorius and 2. Scaliger have highly prized them: |
SO have the eloquent Orators 1. Pontanus and 2. Muretus verygloriously estimated them. |
45.
AS 1. Georgius Buchananus Iepthe, amongst all moderne Tragedies is able to abide the touch of Aristotles precepts, and 1. Euripides examples: |
SO is 1. Bishop Watsons Absalon. |
46.
AS 1. Terence for his translations out of Appolodorus & Menander, and 2. Aquilus for his translation out of Menander, and 3. C. Germanicus Augustus for his out of Aratus, and 4. Ausonius for his translated Epigrams out of Greeke, and 5. Doctor Johnson for his Frogge-fight out of Homer, and 6. Watson for his Antigone out of Sophocles, have good commendations: |
SO these versifiers fot their learned translations are of good note among us, 1. Phaere for Virgils Aeneads, 2. Golding for Ovids Metamorphosis 3. Harington for his Orlando Furioso 4. the translators of Senecas Tragedies 5. Barnabe Googe for Palingenius 6. Turbervile for Ovids Epistles and Mantuan and 7. Chapman for his inchoate Homer |
There is symmetry of names but not of items
47.
AS the Latines have these Emblematists, 1. Andreas Alciatus, 2. Reusnerus, and 3. Sambucus: |
SO we have these 1. Geffrey Whitney 2. Andrew Willet, and 3. Thomas Combe. |
48.
AS 1. Nonnus Panapolyta writ the Gospell of saint John in Greek Hexameters: |
SO 1. Gervas Markham has written Salomons Canticles in English verse |
49.
AS 1. C. Plinius writ the life of Pomponius Secundus: |
SO 1. yong Charles Fitz-Ieffrey that high touring Falcon, hath most gloriously penned the honourable life and death of worthy sir Francis Drake |
50.
AS 1. Hesiod writ learnedly of husbandry in Greeke: |
SO hath 1. Tusser very wittily and experimentally written of it in English. |
51.
AS 1. Antipater Sidonius was famous for extemporall verse in Greeke, and 2. Ovid for his Quicquid conabar dicere versus erat: |
SO was our 1. Tarleton, of whome Doctour Case that learned physitian thus speaketh in the seventh Booke, & seventeenth chapter of his Politikes; Aristoteles suum Theodoretum laudavit quendam peritum Tragoediarum actorem; Cicero suum Roscium: nos Angle Tarletonum, in cuius voce & vultus omnes iocosi affectus, in cuius cerebroso capite lepida facetia habitant. AND SO is now our wittie 2. Wilson, who, for learning and extemporall witte in this facultie, is without compare and compeere, as to his great and eternall commendations he manifested in his chalenge at the Swanne on the Banke side. |
52.
AS 1. Achilles tortured the deade bodie of 1. Hector, and as 2. Antonius, and his Fulvia tormented the liveless corps of 2. Cicero: |
SO 1. Gabriell Harvey hath shewed the same inhumanitie to 1. Greene that lies full low in his grave. |
53.
AS 1. Eupolus of Athens used great libertie in taxing the vices of men: |
SO dooth 1. Thomas Nash, witness the broode of the Harveys. |
54.
AS 1. Actaeon was wooried of his owne hounds: |
SO is 1. Tom Nash of his Ile of Dogs. Dogges were the death of Euripides, but bee not disconsolate gallant young Juvenall, Linus, the sonne of Apollo died the same death. Yet God forbid that so brave a witte should so basely perish, thine are but paper dogges, neither is thy banishment like Ovids, eternally to converse with the barabrous Getes. Therefore comfort thy selfe sweete Tom, with Ciceros glorious return to Rome, & with the counsel Aeneas gives to his seabeaten soldiors, lib. I Aeneid. Pluck up thine heart, & drive from thence both feare and care away: To thinke on this may pleasure be perhaps another day, Durato, & temet rebus servato secundis. |
55.
AS 1. Anacreon died by the pot: |
SO 1. George Peele by the pox, |
56.
AS 1. Archesilaus Prytanaeus perished by wine at a drunken feast, as 1. Hermippus testifieth in Diogenes: |
SO 1. Robert Greene died of a surfet taken at Pickeld Herrings & Rhenish wine, as witnesseth 1. Thomas Nashe who was at the fatall banquet. |
57.
AS 1. Jodelle, a French tragical poet beeing an Epicure, and an Atheist, made a pitifull end: |
SO our tragicall poet 1. Marlow for his Epicurism and Atheisme had a tragicall death; you may read of this Marlow more at large in The Theatre of Gods iudgments, in the 25. chapter entreating of Epicures and Atheists. |
58.
AS 1. the poet Lycophron was shot to death by a certain rival of his: |
SO 1. Christopher Marlow was stabd to death by a bawdy Servingman, a rivall of his in lewde lov |